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Wanted to share my first experience in selling my first start up car which i have own less than 2 years. It was parked up more than it drove. It is not sold yet , as i took it off the market after i had this experience with this potential buyer.
RUN DOWN: My car is A VW Bora Licensed 2004 model. A PBM. I bought it from a Lady who had
the car in an original condition, however, the car had some work to be done.
My family and i take really good care of our vehicles and don't like to drive in
anything that looks/feels old.
WHAT I FIXED : I did a fresh paint job, installed fog lights, installed a lip spoiler , low profile tyres,
chrome rims, new driver console ( numbs for windows, door locks etc) , two new
roters, did 4+ car interior shampoos and always buff and polish when it goes by the
car wash. Imported from Amazon a new latch for the middle compartment.
Also new interior light switches.
MAINTENENCE: Brake Pads, Shoes ,Discs , We also put in a new transmission because the previous
owner didnot maintain that and when we bought it, there was a slight 'buck'
when you put it on the reverse gear. We did the regulars such as changing oil.
fuse, battery. etc.
Also did a full engine service after the transmission was done. This was
December 2014. The car was parked up from May 2014- January 2015.
WHAT I LEFT UNFIXED : 1. When i bought the car the rear view mirror was foggy which when
researched i saw that this is a common fault in all VW Boras.
2. The passenger side mirror was cracked but you can still see from it .
3. The original VW Grill was slightly broken but it held on with screws and
still looked great.
4. The middle compartment latch still needed replacing but it only needed
two little springs which cost less than 5 TT Dollars.
5. The bonnet strut fluid leaked out and the bonnet had no support.
We propped it up using a screw wedged between the strut.
6. The car had no A/C as the compressor kicked the bucket after 5months
of buying the car. HOWEVER, the person who i bought the transmission
from in Peter's field, wanted my old transmission in exchange for
a used original compressor.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE CAR IS 10+ YEARS OLD !
1. So days after i advertised my car on Trinituner, Trinimotors and facebook i got a call from this man.
He agreed to meet me home and came to see the car alone. He spoke to my brother in which i then began to tell him all the problems the car came with and all the fixes i did. When i told him that the car had no A/C this was where the problem started.
He asked me the price again in which i replied it's 40k. If you look at TRINICARSFORSALE Website Boras are selling for much more without A/C .
He told me straight up that he had a problem with the car not having A/C and i told him the situation about the exchange we made with the transmission for the compressor and we have to wait until we got the call from the man to pick up one. He also told me he liked my car and that his friend owned one. I told him to bring his mechanic and see the car before purchase in which he scheduled for the next week.
2. The next days after he called me and told me he spoke to his mechanic and his friends and they told him that the right price is 39k , because he have to install the compressor on his part ( 1k less) and if i can ask my family to give him that. We initially agreed because my dad said if this man like the car so much then 1k less is alright.
3. I decided to not take the compressor from the man after he called me and told me they were not good and two people brought back theirs after purchase from him. The day after, one of our workers was driving the car and the ABS light came on. I called my mechanic ( which is the previous owner's
husband) and told him my light came on. He came and did the checks and said everything was working fine as the car is driving but it looks like the pump is not receiving power and it can be easily fixed by a mechanic.
4. At this time, the guy was only calling me to find out about the compressor. My brother then spoke to him and got so frustrated that he told him 35k and thats it, just for the car to sell and go. My family also have no time to even fix my car so that's why he told the man take it for the 35k. He told him about the ABS light and how we are not getting the A/C so if he wants it no problem . The man said he will call us back because he have to talk to his mechanic about the ABS light.
5. The Friday night now, he called and said he has two minds because of the ABS and compressor . He also said his mechanic cannot make it because he is busy and if i can get my mechanic to come and do a diagnostic on the car. WHAT THE FLYING F$#@%&*^$# !
He also said that if he have to come , we have to PICK HIM UP IN CHAGUANAS AND BRING HIM TO OUR HOME. At this point all of us was fuming MAD! We never had this kind of experience with a potential buyer EVER! I was not begging this man to buy my car! I left it there for that night not wanting to see this man again!
6. Saturday morning when i got up, my brother called @ 7am and told him that our mechanic has no time and he will come this morning to do a diagnostic at our cost and take a picture to show him. The agreed time he was coming here was @ 9am. The mechanic came and the disgnostic showed the results of the pump. The mechanic PERSONALLY CALLED THE MAN and told him the problem and said it can be fixed by a mechanic. He said he have to call us back to give us an answer because he have to again consult with his mechanic. He called me around 9am and ask me now IF I HAVE A RAMP TO JACK UP MY CAR? I replied " What you want to jack up my car for ? " He said to see the car. WTF! AGAIN!
7. I Spent Half of My Saturday Waiting for this man to come and he arrived at around 1pm with his brother in tow. No problem. My mother furious told him 35k and thats it , take it or leave it because we had two other potential buyers from before with their mechanics to come and check out the car.
They now asking us if we had a jack and a tyre place around here to carry the car to see the suspension. My mother then said my car is not going anywhere. They are welcomed to take a test drive . After the test drive he now asking "what is that noise" . So we told him thats the sound the car always makes since we got it . Mind it it's the noise the car makes when you press the brakes . It's an electric sound.
8. After we reached back home , the man said he will take the car finally but he had one condition to use our insurance for the weekend until he can get one during the week. I showed him the diagnostic results too. As i left him there to go inside and daft the invoice and a paperwork for the insurance , his brother, cousin/nephew and him started digging in my car. When i arrived with the printed paper work now he's telling me that he's not taking the car again because it have a leak in the power steering.
I MORE F#$%^%$# ANGRY TOLD HIM NO PROBLEM AND SLAMMED THE DOOR AND LEFT THEM THERE. IT didn't make any sense to talk again. At that point i was furious!
9. I know my car had no problems like that and there was no leak coming from my car. I called my mechanic the same evening and he came. Turns out it was old oil from changing the transmission a month ago and it was never wiped out. The mistake i did was not doing an engine wash to clean out the residue oil of all the repairs/maintenence that we did.
THE MEN BROKE MY BATTERY HOLDER TRYING TO LOOK INTO MY ENGINE AND LEFT! Now My Battery is shaking when it is driving and has nothing to keep it in place. I wanted to call him, but what is the use of dealing with this man again!!!!!!!!!
CONCLUSION : From my experience this man clearly took advantage of me as a girl. He wanted to break down price because he saw our living environment. I had no problem empathizing with someone but to go to this extent was MADNESS! I learnt my lesson and will never let someone do this to me again! The Mistake i made was LETTING THIS GET TOO FAR! I Should of told him off from point 2!
RUN DOWN: My car is A VW Bora Licensed 2004 model. A PBM. I bought it from a Lady who had
the car in an original condition, however, the car had some work to be done.
My family and i take really good care of our vehicles and don't like to drive in
anything that looks/feels old.
WHAT I FIXED : I did a fresh paint job, installed fog lights, installed a lip spoiler , low profile tyres,
chrome rims, new driver console ( numbs for windows, door locks etc) , two new
roters, did 4+ car interior shampoos and always buff and polish when it goes by the
car wash. Imported from Amazon a new latch for the middle compartment.
Also new interior light switches.
MAINTENENCE: Brake Pads, Shoes ,Discs , We also put in a new transmission because the previous
owner didnot maintain that and when we bought it, there was a slight 'buck'
when you put it on the reverse gear. We did the regulars such as changing oil.
fuse, battery. etc.
Also did a full engine service after the transmission was done. This was
December 2014. The car was parked up from May 2014- January 2015.
WHAT I LEFT UNFIXED : 1. When i bought the car the rear view mirror was foggy which when
researched i saw that this is a common fault in all VW Boras.
2. The passenger side mirror was cracked but you can still see from it .
3. The original VW Grill was slightly broken but it held on with screws and
still looked great.
4. The middle compartment latch still needed replacing but it only needed
two little springs which cost less than 5 TT Dollars.
5. The bonnet strut fluid leaked out and the bonnet had no support.
We propped it up using a screw wedged between the strut.
6. The car had no A/C as the compressor kicked the bucket after 5months
of buying the car. HOWEVER, the person who i bought the transmission
from in Peter's field, wanted my old transmission in exchange for
a used original compressor.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE CAR IS 10+ YEARS OLD !
1. So days after i advertised my car on Trinituner, Trinimotors and facebook i got a call from this man.
He agreed to meet me home and came to see the car alone. He spoke to my brother in which i then began to tell him all the problems the car came with and all the fixes i did. When i told him that the car had no A/C this was where the problem started.
He asked me the price again in which i replied it's 40k. If you look at TRINICARSFORSALE Website Boras are selling for much more without A/C .
He told me straight up that he had a problem with the car not having A/C and i told him the situation about the exchange we made with the transmission for the compressor and we have to wait until we got the call from the man to pick up one. He also told me he liked my car and that his friend owned one. I told him to bring his mechanic and see the car before purchase in which he scheduled for the next week.
2. The next days after he called me and told me he spoke to his mechanic and his friends and they told him that the right price is 39k , because he have to install the compressor on his part ( 1k less) and if i can ask my family to give him that. We initially agreed because my dad said if this man like the car so much then 1k less is alright.
3. I decided to not take the compressor from the man after he called me and told me they were not good and two people brought back theirs after purchase from him. The day after, one of our workers was driving the car and the ABS light came on. I called my mechanic ( which is the previous owner's
husband) and told him my light came on. He came and did the checks and said everything was working fine as the car is driving but it looks like the pump is not receiving power and it can be easily fixed by a mechanic.
4. At this time, the guy was only calling me to find out about the compressor. My brother then spoke to him and got so frustrated that he told him 35k and thats it, just for the car to sell and go. My family also have no time to even fix my car so that's why he told the man take it for the 35k. He told him about the ABS light and how we are not getting the A/C so if he wants it no problem . The man said he will call us back because he have to talk to his mechanic about the ABS light.
5. The Friday night now, he called and said he has two minds because of the ABS and compressor . He also said his mechanic cannot make it because he is busy and if i can get my mechanic to come and do a diagnostic on the car. WHAT THE FLYING F$#@%&*^$# !
He also said that if he have to come , we have to PICK HIM UP IN CHAGUANAS AND BRING HIM TO OUR HOME. At this point all of us was fuming MAD! We never had this kind of experience with a potential buyer EVER! I was not begging this man to buy my car! I left it there for that night not wanting to see this man again!
6. Saturday morning when i got up, my brother called @ 7am and told him that our mechanic has no time and he will come this morning to do a diagnostic at our cost and take a picture to show him. The agreed time he was coming here was @ 9am. The mechanic came and the disgnostic showed the results of the pump. The mechanic PERSONALLY CALLED THE MAN and told him the problem and said it can be fixed by a mechanic. He said he have to call us back to give us an answer because he have to again consult with his mechanic. He called me around 9am and ask me now IF I HAVE A RAMP TO JACK UP MY CAR? I replied " What you want to jack up my car for ? " He said to see the car. WTF! AGAIN!
7. I Spent Half of My Saturday Waiting for this man to come and he arrived at around 1pm with his brother in tow. No problem. My mother furious told him 35k and thats it , take it or leave it because we had two other potential buyers from before with their mechanics to come and check out the car.
They now asking us if we had a jack and a tyre place around here to carry the car to see the suspension. My mother then said my car is not going anywhere. They are welcomed to take a test drive . After the test drive he now asking "what is that noise" . So we told him thats the sound the car always makes since we got it . Mind it it's the noise the car makes when you press the brakes . It's an electric sound.
8. After we reached back home , the man said he will take the car finally but he had one condition to use our insurance for the weekend until he can get one during the week. I showed him the diagnostic results too. As i left him there to go inside and daft the invoice and a paperwork for the insurance , his brother, cousin/nephew and him started digging in my car. When i arrived with the printed paper work now he's telling me that he's not taking the car again because it have a leak in the power steering.
I MORE F#$%^%$# ANGRY TOLD HIM NO PROBLEM AND SLAMMED THE DOOR AND LEFT THEM THERE. IT didn't make any sense to talk again. At that point i was furious!
9. I know my car had no problems like that and there was no leak coming from my car. I called my mechanic the same evening and he came. Turns out it was old oil from changing the transmission a month ago and it was never wiped out. The mistake i did was not doing an engine wash to clean out the residue oil of all the repairs/maintenence that we did.
THE MEN BROKE MY BATTERY HOLDER TRYING TO LOOK INTO MY ENGINE AND LEFT! Now My Battery is shaking when it is driving and has nothing to keep it in place. I wanted to call him, but what is the use of dealing with this man again!!!!!!!!!
CONCLUSION : From my experience this man clearly took advantage of me as a girl. He wanted to break down price because he saw our living environment. I had no problem empathizing with someone but to go to this extent was MADNESS! I learnt my lesson and will never let someone do this to me again! The Mistake i made was LETTING THIS GET TOO FAR! I Should of told him off from point 2!
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